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DAVID & JONATHAN (1000 bce)

After killing the Philistine giant, Goliath, the young hero David was brought before Saul, the first king of Israel. Saul’s eldest son Jonathan instantly fell in love with the handsome young warrior, and stripped off his own robe and armor and placed them upon David. When Jonathan was killed by the Philistines on Mt. Gilboa, David mourned and said: “greatly beloved were you to me; your love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women”. The story of David and Jonathan is told in the Old Testament of the Bible, in books 1 and 2 Samuel.
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Arbitran Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
People who try to erase David and Jonathan's marriage confuse me so much: like, it's literally a crucial part of the plot, without which the narrative makes no sense. The only reason David gets a legitimate claim to the monarchy is because he's in a pederastic union with the king's son.
Astrall99 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
This is the ULTIMATE clickbait.
Mekyati Featured By Owner Edited Jan 10, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
First and for most I want to thank the creator of this drawing for creating it, and showing that it was okay back then and In my opinion only became a isse in "these modern times." Second as a Christian (even though I don't feel religion needs a label) I don't think the Lord now or than would have a problem with it, Love is  Love. Thirdly I would like to apologize on the behalf of my "fellow Christians" for some of their rude comments they do not represent the whole, however they are the ones mostly heard and seen. And would like to direct them to check out her Christian Literature particularly " Do Not Call Yourselves Christians.…

 I'm sure I'll get a lot of negativity from some for this, but it will be ignored, but seeing some of the comments made me want to speak out. 

And also a friendly reminder the Bible was written almost a 1,000 years after all these events take place, and heavily edited since. It's like a 10,000 year old came of telephone really. But I'm not saying the events didn't happen just perhaps not the way they're "idealized" to have happened
ladyblackbird13 Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Hah! Christian homophobes disproved by the bible! Take that, you homophob morons! :D
AgentKay004 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Fan interpretation doesn't trump canonicity.
ladyblackbird13 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
True, and I don't really care for fanfiction. But have you ever actually read this part in the bible? Because I did.
AgentKay004 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I read the majority of the Bible, including all of the NT, 1 and 2 Samuel, Kings and the 5 books of Moses.
I re-read them.
I looked at articles about various subjects.

I'd say I have a good idea of the context of the story of King David, including his sins.
Homosexuality is referenced about a dozen times as a sin (including the act of adultery and aldutery in heart as lust).

David committed the act of adultery with a married women and God punished him by taking the life of the resulting child.
David repented but this same behaviour extends to his children (one son rapes his half-sister and another takes his father's concubines).

And what does God do with this highly influencial leader (whose son would later stray the entire nation to idolaltry just by having foreign wives) with this established sin of homosexuality that was great enough to warrant the destruction of two evil cities?
And that's because David had a love for God and a love for a friend and repented of any wrongdoings.

Clearly, those who see more than friendship are creating this delusion not supported by the Bible, but by their own imaginations.
ladyblackbird13 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
:shrug: You win. Still no need to be homophobic. Also, Sodom and Gomorrha (did I spell it right, because I forget it all the time^^; ) weren't demolished just for homosexuality, but for their sins in general. You know, bestiality, theft, murder, etc. God would also have spared these cities, if just 10 rightous people could have been found. At least he told Abraham so. But if you read the Bible, you know what I mean. I'm glad you did, though, I don't like people who didn't even read the literature they're talking about. :)
AgentKay004 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks, it's nice to have someone actually listen. 😊
And I'm not homophobic. I'll say it as it is, the Bible states homosexuality as a sin (Romans 1) and that was the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah (Jude 1:7) but that doesn't mean I'm going to go about it in a hateful manner.
I would never, at least purposely (I have my bad days like anyone), bully anyone, being a victim of it myself.

And don't worry, we Christians have our fair share of nonbelievers who don't know the literature they're talking about. =P

An interesting thing is that a comparison can be made of Noah's flood, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and Jesus' Second Coming.
The fact 10 righteous were not found and so destruction came and that the destruction was swift and without warning.
Except in Jesus' Second Coming, there will be more than 10 righteous in the world and for their sake, there will be survivors, saved and unsaved, and I assume it's a second chance for the unsaved to accept Jesus as Christ. (Matthew 24).

Just thought 'cause we were on the subject of Sodom and 10 righteous I'd bring this up. ☺
Philhellenike Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2016
Even in the strictest interpretation; the Bible prohibits sex between men, not love. It is entirely possible to have a deep, fulfilling, and loving relationship with someone without having sex. love is universal, and can be felt for either sex: expression of love is culturally dictated, and can certainly be different depending on the sex of the lovers. It annoys and disgusts me how modern people with their minds in the gutter insist on limiting love to a single act and discarding all the other parts of a relationship. I think it is rather crass to speculate on what these people did in the privacy of their beds: and that is between them and God anyhow, it is not for us to judge. We can however celebrate the relationship. The fact is, they loved each other deeply and were in a formal union. That formal union bit is important to the story, because it gives David a legitimate claim to the throne after Jonathan's death. This means that such unions were normal and recognized by the community. This makes sense in a society where keeping the land in the family is all-important, especially in a time of war when young men were likely to die. If you are not lucky enough to have multiple sons, then it is helpful if you can acquire a second legitimate heir by some other means. A formal union between your son and an orphan boy would be one way. It is also "caring for the widows and orphans", which is kind of a big theme throughout the Bible and mentioned often as one of the things that separates Israelites from other people. 
ladyblackbird13 Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I do my best to know what I'm talking about (I'm a future archivist, so I must know, so I can support the users). ^^
I'm glad that you see my point, because I know people who talk about religion and know nothing about it. I also hate it when people talk about a "Holy war" or "crusade" against terror or something. The crusades were bloody and horrible (no matter how hard I try to see it through the crusader's eyes) and pope Urban II. lied about the reasons for the first one. There were countless massacres in the crusades and that's completely depraved. :(
Also, there is nothing holy abour war. It's just unnecessary bloodshed with ulterior motives. :(
AgentKay004 Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Good to know. :)
And yes, the Crusades, witch burnings and such are terrible. They're largely done for political reasons and use religion as an excuse.

Christianity really should be looked on at its core and not it's outward religiousness.
Jesus was absolutely perfect as God, but relatable as human (He got tired, thirsty, tested, cried and ultimately died.)
We could all aspire to be like Him (just look at 1 Corinthians 13 and Galatians 5:22-23).

It's important to note that achieving Christ-likeness doesn't mean we're perfect or that our own works will get us into Heaven.
We've all fallen short and sinned and all our good works are like dirty rags, but it's Jesus who makes us clean by grace through faith.

God loves us all, and the criminal crucified alongside Jesus is a great example of His love. Doesn't matter how late we get into the game or how little, it matters whether we get into it or not. :)
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Terisutaen Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I love this. I'm not very fond of Christianity since many claim the bible to state love is a sin when it clearly is not. But every time I read more about this David and Jonathan, I feel more and more into them. I start to wonder if the haters have actually read the bible? They claim to be Christian and yet hate? I believe these two were actually lovers, their love has so many clues! ;)

I also love the art!
Siolan Featured By Owner May 1, 2015
you can have bro love too , I don't have debate argument on " bro or not bro love" , well , it could be the way it "tilt" in your head when you read it.
Why do I even talk about it.. *Rolling her eyesatherself* :rolleyes:
lol. well well..
hate is not suppose to be a christian concept , could hurt you know.
nefersobekhotep Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2014
You are messed up for doing this.
MeteoDesigns Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Glad you liked it. :D
Red-Jirachi-2 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014
It's scenes like this that make me wonder if they actually were homophobic back then
Dylan-the-dude Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wonderful you include this. 
I hate to see people looking at this and yelling "its a sin" when it isn't. 
The part about gay relationships was added in the 1900s. 
This is shown in the bible without it being condemned. David didm't have to repent or cry out in guilt like when he had that affair with Bathsheba. Indeed, David was Bisexual. And he had great favor with the Lord. If God didn't mind David loving a man, who are we to step in and say its wrong to love your own gender? He created some of us to be gay. And he has no problem with it. So, why are we condemning a part of our being that God intended? He never condemned committed, lifelong, monogamous relationships of ANY gender. The only problem was using our bodies for other false gods or being reckless. 
Other interesting facts:
In the old testament, the Mosaic law ACTUALLY prohibited men from sleeping in the same bed as women due to menstrual blood being unclean. The verse is loosely translated as "Men should not sleep with a man in the same bed as a woman." Not "men shall not lay with a man as a woman."
Ruth told Naomi (Her mother in law) she loved her as Adam loved Eve. This is one of the mentioning of lesbians in the Bible.
David was Bisexual (as mentioned above)
Jesus affirmed a gay couple.
The Enuchs were gay men who played major roles in the first churches.
Jesus mentions his returning and mentions "two men sleeping together and one disappearing" meaning, Jesus affirmed gay marriage. 
The verses people refer to when saying gay marriage is a sin actually condemned other acts. 
Such as:
Child molestation,
Self Harm,
I fully support ya. I'm a Christ following lesbian.
Snoopykatlover Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2014
I beg you please oh PLEEASSEEE DELETE THIS then ask God for Forgiveness!! How dare u lie in the face of these Devianarters and say that Davis and Jonathan was gay!! NO !! :angry: :angry:  David was a man of God if you knew Him you'd understand that He would repulse by this!!!How dare you perevert their words and their meanings. don't Be held accountable for people going to Helll by telling the "Okay to be gay, Man of God , David was so it's Fine" no it os not nor will vere be just as smoking, swearing, lieng,cheating, stealing,having sex outside marriage, unholy union between man and man andwomen and women, gossip and every otherthing outside of God.
GengarPunk95 Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
It says that they were gay IN THE BIBLE
Snoopykatlover Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2015
no it didn't. Thast a Lie and your notdoing your research and Letting the Holy spirt lead you correctly.
GengarPunk95 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
It did
Snoopykatlover Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2015
no. have a nice day now
GengarPunk95 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
it sure did
DevamEtmek Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013
I like the drawing completely, David and Jonathan, whom you read the Bible, you can see quite possible that they were very fond, intimate hug loving gesture.
And then the testimony of David when Jonathan died, that Jonathan was his great love, and he was better than a woman (is so in the Bible, anyone who thinks there was nothing against homosexuals is quite dear)
However, for me it is more a story playhouse with homo erotic, whether intentionally or not, is also questionable (what the author was thinking at that time, but in the ancient world was all homoerotic)
More such beautiful drawings, I wish I even like the very Ancient Times.
AgentKay004 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
David and Jonathan weren't gay...

No sin was edited out and it never says God accepts it just because it's in the bible. The act of homosexuality is stated to be a sin ten times in the bible. Every time David sinned he felt bad for it later and tried to be a person after God's own heart. Homosexuality was not one of the sins he committed, although he did commit adultery.

The love David and Jonathan felt for each other was not sexual but of an ideal friendship. The quote "your love to me was extraordinary, surpassing the love of women." is not gay. The original word in Hebrew for "love" was more political with the woman likely referring to his wife whom he had to work hard for.

Now, I'm not "homophobic". No extreme fear of gay people. Just letting it out there the truth about David and Jonathan's relationship.

David looks good in the picture, by the way.
Astrall99 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
But from the looks of it,it can be said that it wasn't platonic.
AgentKay004 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The picture does look suggestive.
There's nothing suggestive in the Bible itself, though.
dderyubtaeb Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013
Ok so this is false. It is also stated that David was a dear person to him in the way of a!!! Not what you are portraying. And loving someone more than a woman was common when it came to the Bible and faith. Christians are to love Christ more than anything and you can love someone in a family way more that the love of a "woman" as you put it. This is entirely misrepresented.
If the assumption is that it is impossible to love someone and force it to be an intimate love, the regular bounds of family are false in every way.
JulietteDied Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2012
Can we get some lesbian loving? Sorry if it sounds insulting or as if I'm complaining, I'm really now, this is a lovely gallery about queer history. However, I'd like to see more Queer couples, not just cis gay men. It's a suggestion, nothing more.
izzyisozaki Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013
he's a male (likely homosexual) why should he have to? one draws what they find most appealing.
JulietteDied Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
It was merely a suggestion. Besides, it hurts no one to support both sides of the question, especially knowing that homosexual relationships between women were intentionally erased from history.

he's a male (likely homosexual)

Oh, sorry, I wasn't aware that to know love's many forms you have to be gay. Forgive me, I guess I should draw only polysexual women.
izzyisozaki Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
That's beyond the point, I realize your concern but I simply understand the pov of the artist invested into one side of something. It's like asking a heterosexual female (great contributors to male homosexual artwork area) to draw lesbian things when they may definitely not be of their tastes despite obvious support for such relationships. I definitely didn't care to draw women together before I was a bit older; an artist should follow what they are emotionally drawn to.
envylovr Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
YES! I dislike it when people claim that the bible proves that "God hates homosexuals." The english translation of the bible does not have the exact meanings as the original bible, and passages like these are often long-forgotten. ;~;
ForTheLoveofSatire Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2011
Goliath's facial expression is representative of how homophobes feel towards this more-than-platonic moment between David and Jonathan.
EchoTheWhiteWolf Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2011
Goliath must be a homophobe. Look at that disgusted look on his face.
Pristichampsus Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2010  Professional General Artist
That's great :D
godofwarlover Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2010
Homophobes apparently forget that passage
fanaticfic Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2010
lol Goliath looks funny.. kinda takes away from the scene
AteMozzarella Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2009  Student General Artist
This is the best form of debate against homophobia in form of religion xD

Aw, so lovely D: I admit, even if it's symbolic, the Goliath head still puts me off a wee bit.
CarnieBoys Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2009
Wow... I admit I had no idea..
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